System optimization

IKS

The system is slow because OpenGApps allocate insane amount of memory and create crazy CPU load (not sure what for though). I don't know how this can be mitigated except for not using OpenGApps in the first place.

The Android system became extreme slow. It even do not have any response to the mouse moving, so I have to use "wave" feature in the recovery mode. After I "wave" the system and doing some init settings

@SuperS, what "wave" feature do you mean? Can you please provide us more details on what exactly you do in the recovery and what init settings you mean?

SuperS

@IKS said:
The system is slow because OpenGApps allocate insane amount of memory and create crazy CPU load (not sure what for though). I don't know how this can be mitigated except for not using OpenGApps in the first place.

The Android system became extreme slow. It even do not have any response to the mouse moving, so I have to use "wave" feature in the recovery mode. After I "wave" the system and doing some init settings

@SuperS, what "wave" feature do you mean? Can you please provide us more details on what exactly you do in the recovery and what init settings you mean?

Sorry. Wrong word. It is "Wipe" in the recovery mode. If I do not do the "Wipe", your system will be very very slow after I install the OpenGApps.

SurprysE

@SuperS said:

@IKS said:
The system is slow because OpenGApps allocate insane amount of memory and create crazy CPU load (not sure what for though). I don't know how this can be mitigated except for not using OpenGApps in the first place.

The Android system became extreme slow. It even do not have any response to the mouse moving, so I have to use "wave" feature in the recovery mode. After I "wave" the system and doing some init settings

@SuperS, what "wave" feature do you mean? Can you please provide us more details on what exactly you do in the recovery and what init settings you mean?

Sorry. Wrong word. It is "Wipe" in the recovery mode. If I do not do the "Wipe", your system will be very very slow after I install the OpenGApps.

So installing opengapps and then making the device wipe the problem of excessive slowness is solved?

I will test that for myself.

SurprysE

@SuperS said:

@IKS said:
The system is slow because OpenGApps allocate insane amount of memory and create crazy CPU load (not sure what for though). I don't know how this can be mitigated except for not using OpenGApps in the first place.

The Android system became extreme slow. It even do not have any response to the mouse moving, so I have to use "wave" feature in the recovery mode. After I "wave" the system and doing some init settings

@SuperS, what "wave" feature do you mean? Can you please provide us more details on what exactly you do in the recovery and what init settings you mean?

Sorry. Wrong word. It is "Wipe" in the recovery mode. If I do not do the "Wipe", your system will be very very slow after I install the OpenGApps.

I tried to wipe the dalvik partitions, cache and data but I only worsened the situation.
The system is put back more than 45 minutes loading into the screen emteria, at the end I surrendered and I turned off reflashing the whole.
It is not feasible to wait all that time, maybe it would also have started but it has no logic.
After several searches I found this link to XDA maybe it can help some of us and open up new avenues:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/help/android-starting-optimising-apps-t3615203

In particular, the post dated June 6, 2017 at 10:42

This user reports our same problems but on a nexus... He solved them by loading a different version of the gapps and installing those.
We often talk about these Beansgapps, which is a viable way?
I also await your feedback on possible new solutions to this problem for many.

I attach links from where you can download them:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/gapps-dynamic-gapps-t3487192

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

gsfx

Hello,

I am using OpenGApps. It worked fine with version 0.5.11. The problems were there when I updated to 0.5.16, I think 0.5.14 worked, too.

Best regards

gsfx

SuperS

@SurprysE said:

@SuperS said:

@IKS said:
The system is slow because OpenGApps allocate insane amount of memory and create crazy CPU load (not sure what for though). I don't know how this can be mitigated except for not using OpenGApps in the first place.

The Android system became extreme slow. It even do not have any response to the mouse moving, so I have to use "wave" feature in the recovery mode. After I "wave" the system and doing some init settings

@SuperS, what "wave" feature do you mean? Can you please provide us more details on what exactly you do in the recovery and what init settings you mean?

Sorry. Wrong word. It is "Wipe" in the recovery mode. If I do not do the "Wipe", your system will be very very slow after I install the OpenGApps.

I tried to wipe the dalvik partitions, cache and data but I only worsened the situation.
The system is put back more than 45 minutes loading into the screen emteria, at the end I surrendered and I turned off reflashing the whole.
It is not feasible to wait all that time, maybe it would also have started but it has no logic.
After several searches I found this link to XDA maybe it can help some of us and open up new avenues:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/help/android-starting-optimising-apps-t3615203

In particular, the post dated June 6, 2017 at 10:42

This user reports our same problems but on a nexus... He solved them by loading a different version of the gapps and installing those.
We often talk about these Beansgapps, which is a viable way?
I also await your feedback on possible new solutions to this problem for many.

I attach links from where you can download them:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/gapps-dynamic-gapps-t3487192

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

Thanks for your information. I've tested the BeansGApps has exactly same issue as OpenGApps.

There are few "wipe" features, the "wipe" I am talking about is in the main menu of recovery mode. After I wipe the system and re-set the system, the response of Andriod becomes normal. However, the "System optimization ..." box keeps pop up.

SuperS

@gsfx said:
Hello,

I am using OpenGApps. It worked fine with version 0.5.11. The problems were there when I updated to 0.5.16, I think 0.5.14 worked, too.

Best regards

gsfx

Yes. Exactlly. It works fine with version 0.5.11 and 0.5.12. The issue occurred since the version 0.5.14 and above.

IKS

As I said, the waiting screen was introduced in 0.5.13 or 0.5.14. And it doesn't do anything - it just notifies you about the system activity. Starting with 0.5.17 there will be a settings option to turn the screen off.

SuperS

@IKS said:
As I said, the waiting screen was introduced in 0.5.13 or 0.5.14. And it doesn't do anything - it just notifies you about the system activity. Starting with 0.5.17 there will be a settings option to turn the screen off.

Thanks. I am looking forward to the version 0.5.17.

whitecider

same problem. running a RPI 3B+. i need playstore. is there any hope for it?

whitecider

is there a way to download an older version of emteria say 0.5.11 which was working?

SurprysE

@SuperS said:

@gsfx said:
Hello,

I am using OpenGApps. It worked fine with version 0.5.11. The problems were there when I updated to 0.5.16, I think 0.5.14 worked, too.

Best regards

gsfx

Yes. Exactlly. It works fine with version 0.5.11 and 0.5.12. The issue occurred since the version 0.5.14 and above.

Where can I find version 5.12?

SuperS

@SurprysE said:

@SuperS said:

@gsfx said:
Hello,

I am using OpenGApps. It worked fine with version 0.5.11. The problems were there when I updated to 0.5.16, I think 0.5.14 worked, too.

Best regards

gsfx

Yes. Exactlly. It works fine with version 0.5.11 and 0.5.12. The issue occurred since the version 0.5.14 and above.

Where can I find version 5.12?

Open the app "emteria.OS installer" of your computer, find a grey button called "Skip login and use local image", which is under the "AUTHORIZE" button, click it and will open a folder box shows all the version you have downloaded. Choose the folder "rpi3-v0.5.12" if you've downloaded and installed before.

SurprysE

@SuperS said:

@SurprysE said:

@SuperS said:

@gsfx said:
Hello,

I am using OpenGApps. It worked fine with version 0.5.11. The problems were there when I updated to 0.5.16, I think 0.5.14 worked, too.

Best regards

gsfx

Yes. Exactlly. It works fine with version 0.5.11 and 0.5.12. The issue occurred since the version 0.5.14 and above.

Where can I find version 5.12?

Open the app "emteria.OS installer" of your computer, find a grey button called "Skip login and use local image", which is under the "AUTHORIZE" button, click it and will open a folder box shows all the version you have downloaded. Choose the folder "rpi3-v0.5.12" if you've downloaded and installed before.

Unfortunately, I have never downloaded version 5.12. Therefore, it does not appear on the list.

IKS

Dear everyone asking for an older version:

The "System optimization" screen is NOT a bug. The system is deliberately designed to show this message. Once again: it is not this screen which freezes the system, this behavior is caused by OpenGApps. Our notification screen just warns you about it, it doesn't actually do anything. So if you don't like OpenGApps to kill the performance, don't install them and you won't see the screen. Or you can wait until the CPU and IO load settle down and your system will be usable again.

Installing an older version of emteria.OS won't fix this behavior - the system will still need time to finish all the OpenGApps initialization and will be extremely slow until it's done.

SurprysE

@IKS said:
Dear everyone asking for an older version:

The "System optimization" screen is NOT a bug. The system is deliberately designed to show this message. Once again: it is not this screen which freezes the system, this behavior is caused by OpenGApps. Our notification screen just warns you about it, it doesn't actually do anything. So if you don't like OpenGApps to kill the performance, don't install them and you won't see the screen. Or you can wait until the CPU and IO load settle down and your system will be usable again.

Installing an older version of emteria.OS won't fix this behavior - the system will still need time to finish all the OpenGApps initialization and will be extremely slow until it's done.

OK...
I will use Aptoide then. The only thing I regret is that I have many licensed programs that I would like to test on this system.
I will wait for a new release.

maggu2810

So, perhaps the most of us are interested in the answer of the question how to integrate the GApps into your ROM without getting high CPU and I/O load.

If the load is caused by the GApps itself, isn't the question valid why it works on other custom ROMs for various android phones? Can the custom ROM make some configuration changes to allow a better integration?

It would be great if it is possible to integrate the Google Play Services and the Google Play Store as a user of your ROM to allow installation of already paid applications (so the license checks succeed) and of applications that rely on the Play Services.

IKS

@maggu2810 said:
So, perhaps the most of us are interested in the answer of the question how to integrate the GApps into your ROM without getting high CPU and I/O load.

I can't come up with a way for this. If you have an idea, please let me know.

@maggu2810 said:
If the load is caused by the GApps itself, isn't the question valid why it works on other custom ROMs for various android phones?

I don't know any other ROM for a device with about 700MB of RAM and SD card as primary persistent memory storage (for the system itself, not for user data) which supports GApps.

@maggu2810 said:
It would be great if it is possible to integrate the Google Play Services and the Google Play Store as a user of your ROM to allow installation of already paid applications (so the license checks succeed) and of applications that rely on the Play Services.

It is possible. Install it, wait X hours for all the background downloads and optimizations to finish, restart it several times and it will be fine. You have to wait additional time after each boot though.

SurprysE

@IKS said:

@maggu2810 said:
So, perhaps the most of us are interested in the answer of the question how to integrate the GApps into your ROM without getting high CPU and I/O load.

I can't come up with a way for this. If you have an idea, please let me know.

Could using a MicroSD of category A1 or A2 (currently not yet on the market) solve the problem?
I had posted a post about this but no one was able to respond:

#386

Theoretically, increasing the IOPS should also reduce the MicroSD overload.

IKS

I don't know, we didn't test it. It looks promising, but I can't give any evidence. It has to be tested first.

« Previous Page Next Page »